Update webos on palm pixi
PalmInfocenter is not responsible for them in any way. Please Login or register here to add your comments. HP lied when they said they would no longer announce products and say they would be available in coming months. That was their CEO! Within 2 weeks they pulled another Palm disaster announcing 3 products that will not be available for MONTHS, and no prices or carriers are even mentioned. Their promises are empty. Palm was a tiny Nemo swimming among the corporate sharks like HP , and I weathered through every one of their missteps, complaining all the way of course.
I bought device after device and even was 1st in line in my city to pay full price for an ATT Pre which excelled my old Treo half the time and came up short another half. If HP were bringing something serious to the tech party, then I might have to eat crow. But, they brought a nice tablet which I really don't want , a freakin' rehashed Pre that has basically no traction now, and that ridiculous Veer off course with the proprietary connector, small screen, and pathetic battery reduction.
I'm about the only WebOS user on this entire Palm fansite. I will not, and from the looks of PreCentral, most their are jumping ship too. Google partners in droves took it a step further and rocked the world with a host of great tablet devices. You could have rocked the world with a 4", ultrathin, minimized bezel, tablet FF device with virtual KB. Palm handed you the best mobile OS to run on it. But you idiots gave us yet another Pre and that ridiculous Veer. Then you go on to destroy the last thread of a user base that you had by breaking promises.
Fool me once, your fault. Fool me twice, MINE. I'm off to catch up on the rest of the tech world that has passed me by for the past 5 years, and see who to give my money to.
PS - I'm sorry for misstating the parts about delivering devices that don't inspire. We didn't get a x Palm smartphone until 's Pre. I said it yet again when they brought Hawkins back to push the Fooleo when Wintel netbooks were already hitting the market and positively set to demolish anything Palm could hope to release.
I was so pleasantly surprised to see Engadget's open letter to Palm as well as the news of the Fooleo's cancellation. I said it again when the Centro came out but I ended up being dead wrong, as the Centro especially the superb mb version was the final surprise hit from Palm and packed all of the smartphone "essentials" of the time other than stuff that had been traditionally absent from past Treos big screen, 3.
Furthermore, for the handful of people that DID want a Pixi-style device, the original Pixi formfactor is pretty solid. I have one and the keyboard is quite usable. Take the existing Pixi, give it a substantial CPU boost, and remove the gesture area and bump the screen up to 2.
Put WebOS 3. New entry-level smartphone for chump change. The Veer reminds of of the very bad old days of Palma pointless connector change, no 3. It's like HP gave the green light to resurrect all of the worst mistakes from the past decade at Palm. Heck, they should probably have just dumped the Pixi and never designed the Veer. Instead they could've pushed an 8GB Pre 2 as the entry-level device. Yesterday's news makes me very glad I got out when I did and moved to Android.
I figured with the forthcoming update, that Pixi Plus was the most affordable, foolproof way to get a taste of WebOS 2. I was even more doubtful when I saw the rash of Pixi Plus blowout sales over the past month and when the leaked OS update roadmap emerged and no one made any official comment about OS updates. Now we all know why.
Palm from about onwards looks like it truly is going to end up as a textbook case:. The Pre delays and Sprint exclusivity didn't help matters either.
Will you go over to the left coast and apply for a job with HP? They'll make all the money they'll need. But, they need somebody with an ear on the ground in the smartphone world. HP promptly replaced them with people just as stupid. I think you're getting excited over nothing. I think the Veer and the Pre were in the design pipeline. HP didn't have its own phone designs so it went with those. Carrier pricing might help, although I doubt we're going to see lines for either of those.
The TouchPad is the thing I want. But wtf is its price and available when? Based of Apotheker opening his yap, I really expected the TouchPad to be in stores in weeks, not frikkin seasons! These are still very early days for tablets, despite the iPad being out months and it has been months, not a year yet!
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Latest Videos. Google Pixel 5 unboxing and first impressions. Apple event recap: Every iPhone 12 announced! Microsoft Surface Duo review: Not usable. So basically I have these two similar devices which have taken somewhat different paths to the same goal of producing a modern Smartphone and keeping it up to date. Android has chosen large, "comprehensive" updates with fancy nicknames which occur many months apart which limit the pace of its growth.
Palm with webOS has chosen to make do with smaller, incremental updates which maintain a steady pace of growth but which can also introduce new bugs like the serious stability problems introduced in the Classic emulator with webOS1. But to say that Palm has made no updates to webOS is a ridiculous statement. Care to share your superior Google-fu with the rest of the class? Meh, I suppose that Palm might be an attractive takeover target for Nokia or Dell right now.
But what does Palm possibly have that's worth buying you say, a physical keyboard and a Linux-based OS which is not Android? And why would they even want to get bought out by a company which has been pretty clueless itself in recent years? And hey, maybe Elevation Partners will throw couple hundred-mil at Palm again! So I guess Palm is in the exact position that they've been in for the past decade, six months away from bankruptcy -- and this time, we mean it!
Let's see, as of PM Central Standard Time a quick perusal of the first page of the Pixi forum on Precentral shows 40 threads going back to Dec 2, six of which were updated today.
For comparison purposes, the Pixi forum on the PIC forums shows one thread which hasn't been updated since September In fact, the top thread on the Pixi forum, which admittedly is a "sticky" thread, has more posts than the entire webOS section of the PIC forums.
Finally, front page of PIC shows only one new article in the month of December. While it's still early in the month, all ten the articles on Precentral's front page are dated December 4 or newer. I am definitely seeing signs of a ghost town forming but the Pixi forum on Precentral isn't it.
It think that the PIC link is very useful as it shows how badly its forums have gone downhill. As for the Precentral one, when the hell are they going to fix that damn bug? You mean as opposed to the one or two active threads as we have on this website? PIC is more a palm and smartphone industry news site with intelligent posters and hard hitting no holds barred commentary by long time veterans. Let's stop the kidding.
I don't know wtf happened. Maybe they specced the hardware before the software? Or maybe the software itself is simply inadequate? Why should I care at this point? It no longer interests me. Supplies are drying up and prices have fallen to market-crash levels. Same with Pocket PC, by the way. And you certainly won't find the stunning breadth and depth of resources that are available in the PIC forums. I was strictly commenting on the lack of interest in the Pixi where it counts, not on the already-discussed -by-others that THIS site is seeing fewer and fewer posts I don't nor ever have visited the forums here except maybe a comment or two on something I forget a year or five ago.
Didja see the HTC leak? When your blanket assertions are challenged move the goalposts. I think we've already had the conversation where I was wondering why you took entirely innocent commentary in an extremely negative, possibly even attacking way. It's been first and foremost about news items e. I simply meant that they had made no substantial improvements in performance nor had they added any new features. I've never considered myself an "apologist".
I'm just not a Chicken Little-style panic merchant , ready to proclaim Palm's death at the drop of a hat. The company faces a pretty steep challenge, which hasn't been made any easier by the lukewarm reception of the Pre. But what else is new? Palm's been in troubled waters for a loooong time now, but they haven't shown any sign of going under yet. They don't seem poised for massive blockbuster success anytime soon, but I don't reckon they're dead either.
That's kinda my fault. Been on a bit of a blogging hiatus lately. Life has been very very very very busy this last week. Something had to give and that something has turned out to be my blogging time. Will be back on the beat soon, I hope PIC desperately needs a few more writers who can pick up the slack when this kinda thing happens. It's felt like a bit of a one-man show here the last coupla months You may shoot them on sight. I would think Elevation Partners is pretty happy with themselves right now.
And why would they cut out now? It's a low moment for Palm, but they've come miles since this time last year, when they really reallly looked like toast.
And there's no reason not to believe that right now they're sorting out the bugs in WebOS and adding to it. The smart phone market is going to grow tremendously in the next few years. Why wouldn't Elevation Partners feel like they got in on the ground floor, cheap, on a platform that, at very least, has a good shot at a nice niche position.
Yes, the odds are against Palm, but they've come so freaking far since a year ago Accusing someone of being a drinker while insisting that he's twisting your words around and attacking you personally is not as effective a way of garnering sympathy as you think. You've just done it again. My own participation in this thread began with an admittedly snarky response to Gary about the relative traffic on PIC and Precentral. I'm not affiliated with either website btw, I just happen to waste a lot of my time on both of them.
You chimed in with a one sentence comment that the Pixi forum on Precentral was a "ghost town. You then backed off and said that compared to the rest of the Precentral website the Pixi forum was a "ghost town.
Your final position was to insist that all along you were only talking about a lack of interest in the Pixi and my "hostile" response was to accuse you of moving the goalposts which is my sincere take on the progress of this whole thread. It is titled "Is Palm dead? Curiously enough, while he doesn't mention you specifically, he certainly does make an allusion to you which is far more negative than anything that I've ever written about you.
And the comment that brought me into the thread was Gary's insistence that the action on PIC was an indication that Palm is near its end. Along the way Khris made a few comments to pile on to the notion that Palm is dying and even went further by saying that Palm has been dead for at least ten months. All of these comments suggest to me that this thread is about the viability of Palm as a whole and not just about the Pixi. Clearly you disagree with that notion -- now.
No kidding. Yes, I promise to agonize terribly about the shoddy manner in which I've treated you as I drink myself into a stupor Although I feel obligated to point out that this was during a period of time when I was in Palm's interest to leak a lot of rumors.
I disagree. The older Palm forums on this site still have tens of thousands of posts and were always a good source for a rumors and discussion. Unfortunately, they were allowed to atrophy and have never recovered And while I agree that the news and discussion have always been PIC's most important feature, I fear that PIC might be falling behind in that respect as well.
As I pointed out in another post, other websites like Precentral are posting more news these days. And while the discussion is still good to a certain extent, it is less balanced. There are is less give and take. If Tim, myself, or one or two other people don't comment on a thread, it tends to quickly devolve into a gloomy echo chamber with people bitching about Palm, or Frankengarnet, or about how their new phone can't do what their three year old Treos could do even though they had always agreed that their Treos sucked.
Make me. People have been bitching and moaning around here for years. What has changed for me is that for the first time in a long time Palm doesn't seem to have brought all of this upon themselves. They have a phone which despite its flaws is brilliant and which I finally enjoy using again.
So I will defend them so long as I feel they deserve to be defended. My experience has been different.
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